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Tyme Xandr	Posted - 2010.11.25 17:01:00 - [1] While I know in the long run i actually benefited from have learning the learning skills ... I skilled certain skills much faster and yet still i will receive all that SP back from the learning skills to put towards skills i have been working on .... i still want to complain and feel like i wasted my time. Maybe that's just human nature ... but eh ... hooray for no learning skills!
Tyme Xandr	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:07:00 - [2] Originally by: Khadann Good action CCP. However, be careful with these kind of decisions... And please don't never ever forget what happened to SWG... It was also a great sandbox at the time... Its funny i was thinking the same thing when i was reading about this. When NGE came out, i stopped playing. Why make a game simpler? isn't it exciting when you finally get something done in eve? The journey to a goal is the fun part. No1 would have watched Lord of the Rings if Frodo just flew into mordor and chucked the ring into a pit of lava ....
Tyme Xandr	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:11:00 - [3] Edited by: Tyme Xandr on 25/11/2010 18:13:30 I think a more delicate way to fix this would be to remove advanced learning and give proportionate attribute points from there. This way the potential fallout could be vastly reduced.
Tyme Xandr	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:17:00 - [4] Originally by: Odins Blood THEY DONT HAVE TO TRAIN THE LEARNING SKILLS! no one forces the new guys but the informed guys that know best for everyone. which fyi is all the people that want it gone. hell i chose to spend a week in a dessy and train it all to lvl 3. my choice. you all tell them to go higher. i was told to train them to at least 4. i said no. my 15 bucks. i train what i want. ill stop training if i like. nothing forces me to train. dont worry, most of us understand what ur saying, most people just choose to ignore it. or use it to spread their own agenda
Tyme Xandr	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:20:00 - [5] Originally by: NovaCat13 I might have missed it, but aren't there more than 2,012,692 SP in the learning tree than what we are being reimbursed? All SP used in your learning skills. And i thought it was closer to 3.2m
Tyme Xandr	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:23:00 - [6] Originally by: Zelot Blueice Why cant we keep the books in hangars and whatnot for collective purposes? because as they've seen from previous skill deletion people try to sell and scam others with them saying they still work.
Tyme Xandr	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Wen Jaibao Originally by: Khadann Good action CCP. However, be careful with these kind of decisions... And please don't never ever forget what happened to SWG... It was also a great sandbox at the time... Comparing removing learning skills to the NGE? REALLY?! Did you even play SWG before and after the NGE/CU? Guessing not. This is the best thing that has happened to EVE in a long time. Good riddance. Hated learning skills ever since I started this game. 'hurp durp train these or you will suck' Hes not inferring that EVE is going to be dramatically changed like SWG did when NGE came out ... hes saying SWG was very deep prior to NGE and after NGE came out it was just another ****** MMO out there. What hes getting at is that if CCP start giving into demands to make things easier and less thought out then EVE will start a downward spiral that many other mmo's have become akin to.
Tyme Xandr Gallente 0ne Percent.	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Skythunder Alexandria Originally by: Blackhuey Awesome. Next please remove fitting skills, and anything else that requires investment for future reward. headdesk I second this (sarcastic) sentiment. This is a punch-in-the-face to anyone who thought long-term about their future within Eve, from an early age. This is setting a very bad precedent. Don't try to use logic on a public forum, it only gets you backlash. [≡v≡]
Tyme Xandr Gallente 0ne Percent.	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:39:00 - [9] As I said shortly ago, they should remove Advanced SOCT learning first and give everyone +5 to attributes, which still rewards players who have been skilling learning, then after some time, if its truly necessary, remove the tier one skills. This way those who spent time skilling their learning skills wont be as dusted. [≡v≡]
Tyme Xandr Gallente 0ne Percent.	Posted - 2010.11.25 18:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: Tyme Xandr As I said shortly ago, they should remove Advanced SOCT learning first and give everyone +5 to attributes, which still rewards players who have been skilling learning, then after some time, if its truly necessary, remove the tier one skills. This way those who spent time skilling their learning skills wont be as dusted. Again - do you really care about any potential loss you could experience mid-July of year 2018 ? Would you still be playing EVE? Would EVE's still exist in any form close to the way it exists currently? I think someone just rebutted that statement. [≡v≡]

Tyme Xandr Gallente 0ne Percent.	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:30:00 - [11] Originally by: Dav Varan It good to see that your making the game easier to get into for new players. This will go a long way to making it easier for new players to get competitive sooner. The other thing that would help with new player competitiveness imho would be to reduce Skill Pre-reqs. so that training for T2 gear ( pretty essential for most PvP ) becomes much easier. It the pre-reqs at lvl4 and 5 that really make some trains hugelly time consuming. By limiting Pre-reqs to lvl 3 and keeping lvl 4 and 5 for performance improvement only you make it much easier for new players to become competitve with T2 gear. With enough complaining to make the game easier ull have ur way eventually. [≡v≡]
Tyme Xandr Gallente 0ne Percent.	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:48:00 - [12] Originally by: AkJon Ferguson Continuing my line of thought. This is a really stupid idea, CCP. Here's a better one: Get rid of tier 1 learning skills EXCEPT LEARNING. Give everyone the 5 points from the tier 1's. Reduce tier 2 learning skills to a x1 or x2 train. Reimburse the difference to those who've already trained them. Reduce the noob bonus from 100% to 50%. Fire the idiot who came up with the existing plan, since it took me about 5 minutes to come up with a better one, for free. That way everyone is happy. I think removing tier two would be an easier choice, and reimbursing SP for those skills. Just one set of skills for increasing attributes would be fine. At least it promotes thinking about the future. [≡v≡]
Tyme Xandr Gallente 0ne Percent.	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:50:00 - [13] Originally by: Gartanus So if I understand this right, we will lose our learning skills. Mine are all at 5 now. But we will be getting back the isk we spent for said skills correct? If thats the case I am a very happy pod pilot cause I am saving for my marauder. Every little bit helps and I am glad to see the learning skills go. No u dont get isk back for already injected books. Just books that are still sitting in ur hangers. Read the dev blog, it explains exactly whats happening. [≡v≡]
Tyme Xandr Gallente 0ne Percent.	Posted - 2010.11.25 19:54:00 - [14] Originally by: john roe Originally by: Tonto Auri Originally by: john roe beginning eve 2010 : I WANT IT ALL AND I WANT IT NOW! GIVE ME! GIVE ME! GIVE ME! fast-food generation. Where? I wanna be the first!!! Oh, it's was a joke? Shame on you... I though it was real... it's called a sarcasm, mate. only pointed out which way this game is heading... what it's changing into. into fast-food game. anyway, dont bother with that, mate. this whole concept is way too complicated for you, apparently. Im pretty sure his reply was also sarcasm. +1 for internet sarcasm [≡v≡]

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